Tuesday, September 30, 2008

A children's song



Enthusiasm for your candidate is a good thing; why would you vote for someone you weren't enthusiastic for? But this? This seriously creeps me out- I cannot believe Senator Obama, in his heart of hearts, would approve of this. It's sweet, reverent, hopeful... just like another children's song from Cabaret.

UPDATE: The song is working again, at the moment. no promises for the future.

9 comments:

Chalicechick said...

The kid's chorus thing does look sort of lame. Wonkette is calling them "Terrifying monster children."

At the same time, I think the Nazi comparison, even though they are fictional Nazis, is a little much. To me it looked more like a Presbyterian Sunday school class.
You make that song about Jesus, it's exactly the sort of thing some enterprising Presby Sunday school teacher would put together.

CC

Joel Monka said...

"At the same time, I think the Nazi comparison, even though they are fictional Nazis, is a little much."

I don't think so, if you remember when the song was supposed to have been sung- the early 30's. At the time, nobody knew the horrors that lay in front of them. The German public who voted the Nazis into power weren't hateful people, they were desparate people being given hope for the first time in a very long time.

"You make that song about Jesus, it's exactly the sort of thing some enterprising Presby Sunday school teacher would put together."

Which is why I said " I cannot believe Senator Obama, in his heart of hearts, would approve of this."; I'm sure he would be uncomfortable with such a comparison. He's got to be uncomfortable with the personality cult growing around him; historically, those have never turned out well.

Chalicechick said...

You're pretty quick to object when liberals throw references to facism around, even if they can be sort of defended in historical context. (As honestly some of the facism comparisons to some of the Bush administration rhetoric, crackdowns on civil liberties and increases of federal powers can be.)

I object on similar grounds. Making superficial comparisons to Nazis, again, even fictional Nazis, drags down rational discourse.

CC

Joel Monka said...

You have a valid point, and my only defense is that I wasn't claiming this is anything the Obama campaign is doing; the personality cult is being made from the ground up, not the top down. But the two songs are eerily similar in their tone and creepiness, and the way children are being taught to believe in a person rather than a message.

Chalicechick said...

Speaking as someone who sung some pretty similar songs about Jesus, trust me, we get over it. Indeed, I was the only one left even attending Sunday school by high school and we know how I turned out.

And much as I disagree with the cult of personality around Ronald Reagan (you would be amazed at the amount of stuff that's named after him in Washington) I don't think the cult itself is a particular problem.

OK, it's annoying and that's a problem for me personally, but it's nothing new.

CC

Bill Baar said...

I think you'd be hard pressed to find anything like this in American History. I can't think of a time we've ever treated a candidate this way before they ever became elected. Lincoln, Kennedy, after death maybe... but this is pretty unique.

I hope these poor people realize there viewed as an enormous joke by almost anyone involved in Chicago politics... Obama supporters or not.

That's going to be the big crack up among Demeocrats should Obama get elected.

Steve Caldwell said...

Godwin's law -- 'nuff said.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

BTW, the children's chorus video is not online any more -- at least not on YouTube.

I suppose if we can hold Obama responsible for something a group of Obama supporters does (e.g. this choir video), then we can hold McCain responsible for something that his supporters have done (e.g. an inflammatory DVD on Islam that appears to provoked an attack on a mosque in Ohio).

:^)

Joel Monka said...

"I suppose if we can hold Obama responsible for something a group of Obama supporters does (e.g. this choir video),..."

No; I said "I cannot believe Senator Obama, in his heart of hearts, would approve of this."

Chalicechick said...

(((I can't think of a time we've ever treated a candidate this way before they ever became elected. )))

Dude? Seriously?

Where were you in the Reagan years?

CC